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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:50 am Reply with quote
lofter
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on this cool little frame
http://cgi.ebay.com/GITANE-FULL-531-CROSS-FRAMESET-PERFECT_W0QQitemZ140499408776QQcategoryZ56197QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6343299447858635851

never seen one before , any of you peeps seen one?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:21 am Reply with quote
nicolas
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Cyclo cross ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:13 pm Reply with quote
lofter
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thats what i thought nicolas .never seen a gitane cyclo cross. the frame has no eyelets for fenders or the such. never seen one in the catalogs , but that doesnt mean they werent made .
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:40 pm Reply with quote
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
What am I missing?
There are double cable stops along the top tube in keeping with a cyclocross bike, but the cable stop for the rear derailleur is on the chain stay rather than the seat stay. (???) There are no stops on the down tube that we can see which would be odd for an 80's frame, wouldn't it? So, are the two cables on the TT the rear brake and the front derailleur? If so, why no stop on the DT for the rear derailleur? What am I missing here?

Also, the TT stops look very cheap and nasty for a 531 frame. But that sort of thing really shouldn't surprise me any more, should it?

Nice new puzzle, lofter.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:35 pm Reply with quote
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It's a 1980's cross frameset. There are no "stops" on the downtube, because the cables run from the bars, along the top tube, and then down.

Here is a picture of two of them in action. Remember, M. Madiot was the French National Champion at Cyclocross.

http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/art/2007/Miroir-0285---021.jpg

Another picture, better view of the cable set up. The RD cable goes down the down-tube, it appears.
http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/art/2007/Miroir-0285---023.jpg

***Of note, and something I never noticed before: A SPOKE CARD in Y. Madiot's Gitane!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:42 pm Reply with quote
Wisey
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but there's only 2 cable stops. Shouldn't there be 3? (brake, f. der, r.der)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:10 pm Reply with quote
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Actually, it appears that the rear derailleur cable goes along the top, and the FD cable is routed "traditionally". I don't think there was a top-pull FD available at the time.

If you look closely at the one available on Ebay, you'll see the RD cable guides on the drive-side seat stay (there are two). Also, you can see in another picture a "fuzzy" image of a cable guide on the non-drive side down tube, presumably for the FD.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:55 am Reply with quote
Gtane
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That's a nice find Lofter. It's amazing how new old stock frames continue to appear. Long may it continue.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:24 am Reply with quote
lofter
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coming home to papa hehe Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:19 pm Reply with quote
verktyg
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"coming home to papa hehe"

Lofter,

You're a dirty old man! Laughing

Cyclocross bikes usually have a high bottom bracket, around 11" to 11 1/2". The seat tubes are correspondingly shorter so the stand over hight gives you enough room for a quick dismount. Crying or Very sad

They're usually made of heavier gage tubing too for extra strength for rough handling when riding off road.

A friend is selling a classic early 70s Lejeune cyclocross frame about the same size as yours.

He put it together last fall for a local off road gran fondo, rode it once for about 60 km and decided that he didn't like it. So beware, on the road it may not be the softest riding bike.

... and I'm not going to pick it up! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:32 am Reply with quote
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Well done Lofter. Good find and purchase.

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Re: Gitane Frame 
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:08 am Reply with quote
lofter
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verktyg wrote:
"Lofter,

You're a dirty old man! Laughing


... and I'm not going to pick it up! Wink


but.. but .......have you located that orange mini penny farthing in the bay area yet ? Wink i know its out there Twisted Evil cant be that hard only a couple like that out there probably Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:10 am Reply with quote
lofter
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got the cross frame , and all i can say is wow . absolutely beautiful. this build will be fun for sure. now to find out what madiot had on the bike ? componets wise wisey. Laughing
dont worry pictures to follow of the frame and lugs Wink
dang if i only had a black renault elf winter jersey Sad
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