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removing fixed cup 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:18 am Reply with quote
holga100
Joined: 17 Dec 2012
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Location: Conway, Mass., USA
I found an early 70s service course TdF professional rusting away at my town dump and I'm rehabbing it. Any suggestions on how to remove the BB fixed cup? I'm aware that it's RH threads but don't have any wrench that fits.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:23 am Reply with quote
headset
Joined: 03 Aug 2011
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I've had the best luck with stripping the frame down, locking the fixed cup in a big vise mounted to a big table, and turning the frame around the cup - making absolutely sure you're spinning it in the right direction and the vise is clamped securely on the flats of the cup.

Fixed cups tend to be removed less frequently than the adjustable cup so they're often rust wielded to the bottom bracket, especially if the frame has sat outside for a period of time.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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BB Fixed Cup Tool 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:42 pm Reply with quote
verktyg
Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Location: SF Bay Area
Scroll down to the fixed cup section. It shows an easy to make BB fixed cup tool...

http://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html

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Sheldon tool tip 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:22 pm Reply with quote
gmany
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I tried a big vise, but couldn't get a good enough purchase on the fixed cup to do the job.


I heartily endorse the tool tip from Sheldon Brown to which Chas referred you.

I initially tried a harder bolt with a little finer thread - that stripped when the going got tough.

You'll need a deep socket to go inside the frame to the bolt or nut, but be careful, the socket may be too big to actually fit on the bolt and inside the frame.

I think I had to use a 1/2" breaker bar and a big wrench with a cheater to get the leverage I needed.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:05 am Reply with quote
holga100
Joined: 17 Dec 2012
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Location: Conway, Mass., USA
Thanks for all of your suggestions--I will give Sheldon's method a try. If all else fails, is it easy enough to rebuild the BB without removing the fixed cup? Also, is there a left/right side to the spindle (I can find any markings on it).

BTW this is a stronglight BB circa 1971....is there any market for used bike parts from this era? I'd like to find a Mafac "racer" rear brake for this bike.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:25 pm Reply with quote
verktyg
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holga100 wrote:
Thanks for all of your suggestions--I will give Sheldon's method a try. If all else fails, is it easy enough to rebuild the BB without removing the fixed cup? Also, is there a left/right side to the spindle (I can't find any markings on it).

BTW this is a stronglight BB circa 1971....

The standard length for these spindles was 118mm. The chainring side is longer.




holga100 wrote:
is there any market for used bike parts from this era? I'd like to find a Mafac "racer" rear brake for this bike.


They're always for sale on eBay. Search "Mafac".

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1984 Criterium
1969 TdF
1971 TdF
1974 TdF
1984 TdF x 2 Bikes
1970 SC
1971 SC
1972 SC
1984 SC
1984 Team Pro
1985 Professional
1990s Team Replica
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:43 pm Reply with quote
holga100
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super! Thanks again for all of your helpful info....

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:16 am Reply with quote
scozim
Joined: 26 Sep 2008
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Location: Ellensburg, WA
Not sure where you're located. Our local bike shop has been around for many years - sold Peugeot's back when I was in college here. They still have a lot of their old tools including one for removing the fixed cup.

You could check with shops in your area and see if anyone has one and if they'd let you drop in with the frame and use the tool to take the cup out.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:49 pm Reply with quote
Derph
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holga100 wrote:
super! Thanks again for all of your helpful info....

bb


If you send me $$ for shipping ill send you a pair with hardware.
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