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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:34 pm |
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sandranian |
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So was it definitely 1990? I know that they sponsored RMO for one season...I thought it was 1993.... |
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:11 pm |
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lofter |
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filling in the time line gaps.nice |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:47 am |
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Peter S. Horn |
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Hi Stephan,
Referencing Velo News' feature "What the Tour teams ride", I'm noting 1990 for Histor-Sigma (Gitane-Vitus GTI-Stronglight/Sachs) and 1992 for RMO (Gitane TVT Carbon (and Columbus Genius. sic)-Mavic). I'm not sure if the team extended into 1993.
Best Regards,
Pete H.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:57 am |
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Peter S. Horn |
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Wisey,
Great pictures of those Toshiba Deltas! I had, of course, seen the Renault and Systeme U versions, but these are the first Toshiba models that I was aware of.
Thanks,
Pete H.
Sacramento, Ca.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:40 am |
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lofter |
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Peter S. Horn wrote: |
Wisey,
Great pictures of those Toshiba Deltas! I had, of course, seen the Renault and Systeme U versions, but these are the first Toshiba models that I was aware of.
Thanks,
Pete H.
Sacramento, Ca.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:01 am |
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sandranian |
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It would appear to be the same graphics as on the initial bike that started this post. Maybe the seller was right??? |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:32 am |
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Gtane |
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This is very interesting. Do we have any side on shots of the team on their road bikes or a better shot of the image that began the discussion, Lofter?
It's great to read everyone's comments in trying to refine the detail.
Peter, do you have a few shots of your bike that you could post?
Great stuff. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:01 pm |
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sandranian |
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So...I looked, and it appears that Toshiba last wore those jerseys in 1989...(Toshiba/Karcher). In 1990, they went to the hideous striped Toshiba design. Interesting that they wouldn't be riding Look badged bicycles though. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:18 pm |
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That adds up. In 89, Systeme U went to Raleigh bikes. Toshiba went with Gitane. I wonder if that is when ONCE started up? They used Looks in the early years. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:23 pm |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:35 pm |
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Paul Wiseman |
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Just dug out the 89 year book. In L-B-L, the break was Delgado, Kelly, Anderson and Fabrice Philipot from Toshiba riding on a Look carbon. The next page show J.F. Bernard in the Amstel riding a white Gitane with yellow & black decals & stripes. Philipot in Dauphine on Look. I'm wrong about ONCE, it was still Caja Rural & they rode Orbea. So, perhaps Toshiba riders had a choice? Seems odd to have two bike sponsors though....... (all the delta pics are 89) |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:41 pm |
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Paul Wiseman |
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1990 TdF: JFB in stripey Toshiba jersey on Look carbon. Histor on Gitane. Interesting: Histor jersey has Vitus on it. ONCE on Look road bikes, and Otero TT bikes(steel). |
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_________________ Wisey
Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:56 pm |
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sandranian |
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Do you have any pics of the Gitanes Histor was riding? |
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:08 pm |
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Paul Wiseman |
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Sorry, not very good ones.
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_________________ Wisey
Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:45 pm |
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lofter |
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Gtane wrote: |
This is very interesting. Do we have any side on shots of the team on their road bikes or a better shot of the image that began the discussion, Lofter? |
no, i asked the poster if he had any other pics but he never responded . as i read he only had the one .he was going to try and flip it from what i got . i pm'd him telling him i was interested and asked for more pics.heck im always interested in gitanes. |
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