gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Gitane Racing » Which years did Gitane cycles win the TdF?    View previous topic :: View next topic  Which years did Gitane cycles win the TdF?   Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:53 pm cbs Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 10 Location: USA 44 deg. Have learned from this website that Gitane holds 11 Tour victories, but would like to know the years these victories occurred so that I can read the sagas and stories without wasting time on the wrong years. Being a Gitane owner, we all ought to be able to recite these facts, and have been wondering about this for a long time. Can any of our astute comrades direct me to the info.? Thanks, Cort "It's a French Gitane, only the most decorated racing bicycle in the world..." Other French lightweights in collection: Mercier, Peugeot, Sam Benoto Casanave _________________ "......I was never approached by this company to become an endorser, I merely searched the world to find the lightest & most responsive cycle......"   Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:07 am lofter Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1162 just off the top of my head van impe 76, hinault 78,79,81, 82,fignon 83,84   Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:22 am sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California The dates are listed on the "racing" page, near the bottom: http://www.gitaneusa.com/racing.asp _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com   Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:35 pm cbs Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 10 Location: USA 44 deg. Thanks to you both, now the search begins for a 1957 TdF, a fitting 51st anniversary replica. This website is fabulous, and a treasure trove of information that I've been seeking for many years. Congratulations on the results of a lot of work that's not going unnoticed. >Anyone know where I can find some dual aluminum water bottles for handlebars?< I got an old Scott Bars video from a bike shop that no longer wanted it, it's a 10 minute loop of the first year of the Scott aero bar, LeMond vs Fignon, would these guys be both on Gitane? Thanks, Cort _________________ "......I was never approached by this company to become an endorser, I merely searched the world to find the lightest & most responsive cycle......"   Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:39 pm sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California Nope. The year Fignon lost the tour by 8 seconds, Lemond was on a Bottecchia, and Fignon was on a Raleigh (that explains the 8 seconds!). _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com 8 seconds................explained?   Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:59 pm Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia The Botteccia that LeMond was on had all that areo faring built into the frame. Which was done by welding a piece of plate steel into the corner between the tubes and then filling in around it with 'bog' (auto repair filler - whatever they call it where you are). It also was equipped with a Mavic groupset, ans a Mavic rear wheel. Fignon, on the other hand was on a Raleigh made from shaped tubing but without all the faring, Campy equipped, and Campy discs. The whole thing must have been 3 or 4 lbs lighter than LeMond's bike. Remember Lemond didn't win the TT by 8 secs, he won the Tour by 8 secs. He won the TT by more than 50 secs. Over 24.5km!! Against Fignon, who was a superbe time trialist and on super form!!!!! Explain that! Oops - I just went and checked some photos. Fignon's Raleigh did have all the faring too. OK, I'm wrong..... I do remember reading somewhere that LeMond's Botteccia TT bike was over 24lbs. That ain't light. _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel   Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:31 pm jon13009 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Goto: http://www.letour.us/ To check the dates. Gitane won 9 Tours, 1 short of Peugeot.   Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:45 pm lofter Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1162 jon13009 wrote: Goto: http://www.letour.us/ To check the dates. Gitane won 9 Tours, 1 short of Peugeot. they forgot Anquetil's victories in 57 and 61 so its eleven   Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:32 am jon13009 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3 lofter wrote: jon13009 wrote: Goto: http://www.letour.us/ To check the dates. Gitane won 9 Tours, 1 short of Peugeot. they forgot Anquetil's victories in 57 and 61 so its eleven Anquetil did not ride a Gitane in 1957 or 1961. This is an error that needs to be corrected on this Website's racing page. -------- Between 1957 and 1964 Jacques Anquetil won the Tour de France five times and was one of the most charismatic figures of his time. Riding a Simplex equipped Helyett Speciale for his first three Tour victories, these bikes were essentially French, using Simplex derailleurs, TA pedals, Mafac brakes, Atom hubs, TA and later Stronglight cranksets. In 1963 Anquetil switched teams and would ride Campagnolo equipped Gitane bicycles to victories in the 1963 and 1964 Tours de France. Source: http://www.theracingbicycle.com/Gran_Sport.html ---------- Anquetil rode a Helyett in the 57, 61 and 62 Tours. Anquetil won on a Gitane in 63 and 64 so Gitane has 9 victories in the Tour while Helyett has 3. Look down further in the list and the compiled list of winners. ----------in an email to the webmaster of this site: Re: Anquetil and the Tour de france To: You are absolutely right, and plan on making the changes.... The original source for this information was Gitane (france) itself, which has proven to obviously be wrong. Sorry for the misinformation, and it will be changed in due course. Stephan www.GitaneUSA.com jon13009@----> wrote: Regarding your contention that Gitane won the Tour 11 times, I believe Anquetil was a member of the Helyett team from 1957-1962. Anquetil did not join Gitane until 1963, and won the tour with a Gitane bike 2 times in 1963, 1964. That makes Gitane with 9 wins in the tour: 1963, 1964 Anquetil(2) 1976 Van Impe 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982 Hinault(4) 1983, 1984, Fignon(2) ---------------------------   Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:44 am lofter Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1162 awww crap, my bad! do you ride a gitane jon ? just curious.   Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:49 am jon13009 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3 lofter wrote: awww crap, my bad! do you ride a gitane jon ? just curious. No prob.... No, just a fan. Ride an old steel DeRosa and Legnano right now, but would love to restore a 82-84 Gitane someday. I've ridden carbon and Alum frames, but steel just feels right, and riding frames similar to those that Hinault, Fignon and Lemond rode in Gitane's glory days would be something.   Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:05 pm lofter Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1162 cool , welcome to the site also. i dont know alot of the older gitanes . mine are 80s bikes. thats when i was 19 , 20 yrs old.lemond got me interested. ah the good ole days Re: 8 seconds................explained?   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:36 am nicolas Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 543 Location: Paris, France Paul Wiseman wrote: Fignon, on the other hand was on a Raleigh made from shaped tubing but without all the faring, Campy equipped, and Campy discs. The whole thing must have been 3 or 4 lbs lighter than LeMond's bike. Remember Lemond didn't win the TT by 8 secs, he won the Tour by 8 secs. He won the TT by more than 50 secs. Over 24.5km!! Against Fignon, who was a superbe time trialist and on super form!!!!! Actually, only one man made it under 50" loss to Lemond that day : Thierry Marie, Fignon's team mate, who finished something like 30" later. Fignon was 3rd. So it's not as much a bad day for Fignon as it is an INCREDIBLE day for Greg LeMond. Fignon's perfomances against the clock have always been a kind of a question mark. He was capable of the best & the worst, a bit like Charly Mottet whereas Hinault was always at his best & LeMond always in a good position but rarely a winner, even in his last years, he was always a decent time-trialist. _________________ "Ooooh Putain !!! C'est vous ?" -Greg LeMond www.greglemondfan.com   Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:23 am Gtane Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 681 Location: UK Just noticed - the updated Gitane website, www.gitane.com , states 11 victories in the Tour de France on the homepage. The Gitane listing in Wikipedia (under the Palmarès section) offers 10 victories - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitane Regards the Wikipedia entry, Lucien Aimar's win in 1966 might well have been on a Gitane or a Géminiani but I'm not sure on very quick research. Tim _________________ Everything has a cycle Which years did Gitane cycles win the TdF?     gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Gitane Racing You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Gitane USA----------------Vintage GitaneGitane RacingModern GitanePro Racing - Classics/Giro/Tour....Owner Gallery   Powered by phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group Designed for Trushkin.net | Themes Database.