gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane » An expensive water bottle Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  An expensive water bottle   Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:17 am pistol13 Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 7 Has anyone seen this. Is it mega rare and worth the money? Can't see how but each to their own i guess! link:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-RENAULT-ELF-GITANE-70s-TA-Team-WATER-BOTTLE_W0QQitemZ130279939593QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item130279939593&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 Great provenance   Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:57 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Yes, I saw it late last night... Great provenance (provenance, meaning the documented history of an antique or historical object) "My recollection is that I was able to purchase this bottle from someone who had purchased this from someone connected to one of the Renault / ELF sponsored Gitanes team support vans..." Yes and "George Washington slept here", "this once belonged to Abraham Lincoln" and I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn for sale... Chas.   Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:23 pm Gtane Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 681 Location: UK pistol13, I've seen original 1950's to to 1930's water bottles go for the same money and much more. I'd say the price is very high indeed. Here's a super collection of many ex team water bottles, possibly all; http://www.velocollection.fr/index.php?rang=2 Take a look at the 'avant 1996' selection, here; http://www.velocollection.fr/pages/avant1996.htm You'll see that within the avant 1996 area there are a few Renault Gitane bottles although not '70s as described in the ad. or similar to the shape of the item, but then that detail is pretty vague to a buyer. Tim _________________ Everything has a cycle   Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:29 pm sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California I have never seen that bottle used in any Renault/Gitane team photo...and I have looked at a crap-load of Renault/Gitane team photos. That isn't to say that it wasn't used or the claims made by the seller aren't legitimate, but I have my doubts as to the authenticity of that bottle. Many producers made "team" knock-offs. I had a Systeme U one myself.... _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com   Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:37 pm Gtane Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 681 Location: UK Many, many bottles were made for publicity, marketing and sales purposes outside those for the team, and there were differences. Very hard to tell them apart sometimes. Tim _________________ Everything has a cycle Discarded H2O Bottles   Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:21 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Gtane wrote: Many, many bottles were made for publicity, marketing and sales purposes outside those for the team, and there were differences. Very hard to tell them apart sometimes. Tim During professional races, riders quite frequently discarded their plastic H20 bottles along the way. A lot of lucky spectators have been the fortunate recipients of these bottles over the years. Chas.   Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:32 am Gtane Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 681 Location: UK Chas, It does indeed happen. I was fortunate, I have a Coca Cola water bottle from the 1994 Tour de France that was discarded by a rider, from a group, riding south out of Malaucène, after having climbed and descended Mont Ventoux, chasing Eros Poli to Carpentras. Tim _________________ Everything has a cycle Water Bottles Redux   Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:04 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Think about it, what's on those water bottles - advertising - company names and logos! What do most commercially packaged liquids come in, plastic bottles! Plastic H2O bottles were/are a cheap form of advertising. Advertisers wanted their names spread around and providing teams with large quantities of cheap to produce water bottles was one way of doing it. BIC H2O bottles were ubiquitous! Cyclists pay exorbitant amounts for plastic bottles covered with advertising that cost cents/pence/centimes etc. to produce! Check out this link: http://tinyurl.com/8hx8vg Note prices have increased drastically due to recent extortions by the worldwide oil industry. Chas.   Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:28 pm nicolas Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 543 Location: Paris, France I've had my share of Renault Gitane bottles back in the 80's and none of them looked like that. I'm not saying it's not genuine. I'm just sayong it's not the most commonly used bottle of this era. Maybe that's why it's rare & expensive. Looks to be in great condition, though. _________________ "Ooooh Putain !!! C'est vous ?" -Greg LeMond www.greglemondfan.com   Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:42 pm Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia I have a 1985 Gitane Professionnel that was owened by Stephan Andranian................... _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel LOL   Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:39 pm smilingroadrunner Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 278 Location: Salina, Ks. I like that Wisey, put a smile on my face this evening. C.A. Salina, Ks.   Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:04 pm sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California Hey...I was a Cat 4 California Criterium State Champion in 2004...and won the "Best Male Road Racer" award from my club the same year...so that frame is worth something! _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com   Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:39 pm Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia sandranian wrote: Hey...I was a Cat 4 California Criterium State Champion in 2004...and won the "Best Male Road Racer" award from my club the same year...so that frame is worth something! Bet you didn't win the Cat 4 State Champs on the 60cm Professionnel! _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel   Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:31 am Gtane Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 681 Location: UK sandranian wrote: Hey...I was a Cat 4 California Criterium State Champion in 2004...and won the "Best Male Road Racer" award from my club the same year...so that frame is worth something! Superb Stephan, it must have been a terrific feeling winning that title. Congratulations. Tim _________________ Everything has a cycle   Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:58 am sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California Wisey...my voice would be a few octaves higher if I rode your bikes. FYI: It was a 2004 Gitane "Airplane". Not to toot my own horn, as I am now fat and out of shape, here is the bike and a pic of me winning! http://www.gitaneusa.com/models_8.asp _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com An expensive water bottle     gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours   Page 1 of 2   Goto page 1, 2  Next All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Gitane USA----------------Vintage GitaneGitane RacingModern GitanePro Racing - Classics/Giro/Tour....Owner Gallery   Powered by phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group Designed for Trushkin.net | Themes Database.