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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:50 am Reply with quote
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acquired a gitane and i believe it to be a mid eightys.
blue with number plate braze on and internal rear cable routing.
simplex dropouts.cinelli bb.
wondering if anyone can date this better for me?
no tubing sticker.taking pics tomorrow.
thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:32 pm Reply with quote
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Along with the pictures, let us know the numbers printed on the bottom bracket shell. If there is an '83' or an '84', that is a date code...probably the only two years Gitane used a date code.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:17 pm Reply with quote
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bike size is approx 20-1/2" center of bb to top of seat tube.
dated 14-3-84 on the bottom bracket.
bike was built up with a mix of super record crank,deraileurs shifters.
spidel headset.edco bb.
modolo pro brakes.cinelli 1r stem and cinelli bars.
small flange campy nuovo record hubs.
sew ups.
super record one bolt seat post.(26.8}.
best i can describe as its raining like mad here and just turning dark.
i,m assuming this would be an 84?der is stamped 84.
i worked at a shop here in rochester ny that sold these when they had the connection with trek bikes.
i do remember some of the earlier ones having dropout probs but i think they were different years.
as i remember the bad droput frames were black?anyways thanks for letting me post this






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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:58 pm Reply with quote
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There are rumors that the Simplex dropouts failed on the driveside chainstay.

However, I haven't seen any break...so take that for what it is worth!

Looks like you have the simplex dropouts on that, right? That would make it (technically) a 1983. However, it could have been built in 1984, as the stamp would suggest.

Very nice frameset you have there. Would be built of Columbus SL tubing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:06 pm Reply with quote
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yes,simplex dropouts but memory makes me think the breaking ones were more ornate or at least the offset was different.it wasnt the dropouttbreaking as much as the frame breaking at the dropout.the rear stays were flaired out at an odd angle.

cant blame simplex there.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:19 pm Reply with quote
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I believe it was a failure of the dropouts. That's how I understood the story. My "theory" is that the failures were the reason that Gitane started using Campagnolo dropouts in the 1984's...but that is just a theory.

I wouldn't worry much about it: Still a fine bicycle, which I would gladly take off your hands if you don't want it. Wink

Regarding the decals, contact me via private message...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:24 pm Reply with quote
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Actually, I stand corrected. The 1984 also used Simplex...so yours is definitely a 1984 (I just went to the garage to check my 1984). The bikes that came after 1984 didn't use simplex (either Vitus or Campagnolo). For example, my 1987 Team Pro uses Campagnolo....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:58 pm Reply with quote
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Hi BT,
So you're in Rochester too? We should go ride sometime, I live near RIT.

What bike shop do you work at? My roomate is looking for an older road bike ~ 23" or 24" frame. Got anything?

-Brian
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:02 pm Reply with quote
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I DONT WORK AT A SHOP NOW.
ON AND OFF SINCE 1971 BUT ITS A HELL OF A HARD WAY TO MAKE A LIVING.

AS FAR AS ANYTHING FOR SALE?JUST THE GITANE HERE.I,LL PROBABLY BE POSTING IT ON EBAY AS A BARE FRAME FORK HEADSET.ANYONE GOT AN IDEA WHAT ITS WORTH?
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1984 Pro Team Replica? 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:45 pm Reply with quote
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BT,

Nice bike/frame.

Unless you need the money, because of the economy, right now may not be a good time to try to sell the frame on eBay.

It might bring $200 as is. When the economy picks up a little, it could bring $350, especially with a full set of decals.

50cm (20") frames don't tend to sell as well as say 56cm to 60cm frames.

If you could list it on Japanese eBay, that size would sell very well.... Wink

Good luck,

Chas.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:17 pm Reply with quote
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i dont need the money although its always welcome here.
just need the room in my garage.
but thanks for the advice.
japan ebay huh?hmmmmm.
gotta look into that one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:41 am Reply with quote
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It would be a shame to see such a fine, rare frame go to some fixie FOOL only to see it end up in a dumpster when the fad is over or school ends - whichever comes first! Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad

At least if it went to Japan, it would be appreciated even venerated! (but never to be seen again in the West). Crying or Very sad

Chas.
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