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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:29 pm |
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sandranian |
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I have (finally) scanned some catalogues that I had. It takes me a bit, so I apologize for the delay. Also...some of the catalogues have not been scanned in their entirety, because they are 30+ pages. I usually don't include mountain bikes and the like...only really the road bikes, because that is what interests me...and after all, that is really what is important, right???
Check these out on the site:
1975 British (complete)
http://www.gitaneusa.com/catalogues01.asp
1982 British (partial...all bikes pictured, but not all specs). Of particular interest is the "Profil" is included in this catalogue.
http://www.gitaneusa.com/catalogues02.asp
1997 French (partial: This one was HUGE, so the mountain bike and real lower end road bikes were excluded):
http://www.gitaneusa.com/catalogues03.asp
2009 French "Definitive" line (Partial: The framesets are really all that matters here, and those are pictured. The complete bikes were just different groupsets on these frames. Also, I didn't scan the Definitive line of mountain bikes).
http://www.gitaneusa.com/catalogues05.asp
I just purchased a 1984 British catalogue, but it hasn't arrived yet. When it does...it will be (eventually) added!
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:44 pm |
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Wisey |
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Anyone else notice something strange in the 82 catalogue?
Shhh, Sandman .
(no, it's not the profil) |
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_________________ Kind Regards,
Wisey
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:54 pm |
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sandranian |
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If you saw what I saw...funny, isn't it? They must have gotten a break from the printer, don't you think? |
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:04 pm |
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Wisey |
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It's nice to know that it wasn't just the bikes that suffered from lack of quality control. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:23 pm |
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sandranian |
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I like the bells put on every bike...except the Profil. But on the highest-end bikes, there are bells, which is pretty cool. Surprised they didn't put fenders on them too!
Also note that the model "Vigorelli" in the 1982 catalogue, which has been the subject of discussion on more than one occasion in this forum, is finally found in a catalogue. The tubing is listed as "Competition Camus Aero Profil", whatever the heck that is! (bottom right-hand corner)
http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1982/british/1982-British-catalogue0003.jpg |
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:38 pm |
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Wisey |
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You'll probably find that in 82 in Britain it was still a regulation to have a bell during all amateur racing events. It was still the rule here. Guys used to buy those tiny little aluminium bells and attach them to the front hub as the rules stated that you had to be able to reach the bell while in the seated position. It said nothing about the bike being in motion.
I've been told that the Reynolds 531 profile tubing was simply 531 that had been run through a set of rollers to 'squash' it to the desired shape. I assume the Camus was done the same way. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:43 pm |
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sandranian |
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The "camus" stuff appears to have not even been that high-tech, because the tube ends are still round in order to fit into the lugs. I was going to ask about the law and the bells. In California, all new bicycles must be sold with reflectors, so even on your high end bikes, they are supposed to come with reflectors (front, rear, and wheel). Regulations which signal the death of common sense (and personal choice). |
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:28 pm |
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Wisey |
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You see, you guys in the States got it all wrong in the Cold War . You thought is was all about Nuclear missile bases and submarines. It was really about universal health care and bicycle refelctors . There is no more choice. Democracy has lost. Welcome to the USSA - (United Socialist States of America).
OK seriously: Over here it is law to have reflectors & lights once the sun goes down. It is law to have a bell if you are on a shared cycle/pedestrian path. So, it is law for bike shops to sell bikes with bells & reflectors on them. However, the consumer still has the choice to remove them as long as they don't infringe the law in doing so. Reality is that most bikes get sold with reflectors as they are already attached to the bike when it comes from the factory and mechanics are too lazy to remove them, even on top range racing bikes. On the other hand, bells are usually loose in the box so the mechanics are too lazy to fit them except on kiddies bikes. Go figure......... |
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:23 am |
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verktyg |
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Wisey wrote: |
Anyone else notice something strange in the 82 catalogue?
Shhh, Sandman .
(no, it's not the profil) |
There's certainly a BIG difference the models used in the 1975 British catalog compared to the 1975 US catalog...
"No Sex Please, We're British"
Chas. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:35 am |
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verktyg |
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sandranian wrote: |
The "camus" stuff appears to have not even been that high-tech, because the tube ends are still round in order to fit into the lugs.... |
Camus tube was pretty high tech stuff for a while in the 80s. Here's the story on Ateliers de Maison Rouge - AMR Camus tubing posted by cyclecrank on Flicker:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclecrank/2158408423/in/set-72157603609304746/
It looks like it was used on some of the funny bikes from that era.
Also, several of the bikes are listed in the specs with frames made of "Competition" Reynolds 531 7/10' tubing. That's the spec for Reynolds 531 Super Tourist tubing not Competition tubing (1.0mm x 0.7mm). Reynolds 531 Competition tubing was much lighter (see chart below). Reynolds 531 Professional was even lighter yet.
That was some pretty hefty pipe, the same as Columbus SP tubing.
A lot of production frames from the the 60s through the early 80s came with 1.0mm x 0.7mm wall thickness on the 3 main tubes - Reynolds 531, Columbus SP, Durifort, Vitus 172 and so on.
In the early 80s a lot of the better models started coming with much lighter tubing such as Columbus SL, Super Vitus 971, 980 and 983 plus Reynolds 531 Competition and Professional.
BTW Stephan, great job, thanks for the effort.
Chas. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:32 pm |
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sandranian wrote: |
If you saw what I saw...funny, isn't it? They must have gotten a break from the printer, don't you think? |
no they hired the cheapest photographer . the printer did his job in printing those photos |
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:45 pm |
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sandranian |
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I figured it out. "Moorland" was the British distributor. That is their own decal on a bicycle...maybe not even made by Gitane! |
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:10 pm |
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verktyg |
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Where's Waldo?
Help these old eyes out, how about a hint?
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:37 am |
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:25 am |
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Super work on the catalogues Stephan and thanks for loading.
Wisey - regards bells. There has always been a 'means of approach' Highway Code regulation in the UK and even now shops are obliged to sell machines with bells, or similar. I didn't have a bell fitted for TTs and never saw one on a race machine at that time, or even at all from memory. Interesting to hear that this was the case in Australia. Thanks for that insight.
I love the additional Moorland machine. It could possibly have been made by Gitane and rebadged especially for distributors as a marketing tactic. It would be interesting to see if other catalogues at that time offer the same.
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