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Another 2 bikes 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:38 am Reply with quote
Kongoken
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Hello there, me again.

Just thought I would show you another 2 bikes that I have inherited through marriage.

They are old with character but are well loved .. a bit like the father in law who they belonged to .. hehehehe

Laughing

The first bike that my wife uses (occasionaly) as it's to small for me:


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The 2nd bike which I use and have no clue what make it is:











Any help regarding them would be greatly appreciated.

Grant
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:19 am Reply with quote
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The first one appears to be a Gitane "Tour de France" or "Interclub".

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:37 am Reply with quote
Kongoken
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sandranian wrote:
The first one appears to be a Gitane "Tour de France" or "Interclub".


Thanks again for the quick response .. what details can I give you to verify what it is?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:27 am Reply with quote
vanhelmont
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The second one has the name on it, Cycles Belliard. That might not provide much information, because there used to be many small bicycle makers in France. Cycles are easy to make on a small scale, because all you have to do is braze up frames and paint them, then hang components on them. Therefore knowing the brand may not tell you very much. There are some other decals on the bike which may contain useful info. You may be able to find something about where it was made. St. Etienne was the biggest cycle making city in France. but there were other makers all over the place. You may also find something about the tubing. You can guess the date from components. If there is a sticker for the shop that sold it, and an old guy still works there, he might know something about it. Anyway, looks like a couple of nice bikes.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:14 am Reply with quote
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Given the components, the second bike was rather high end at the time. Close up photos of seat post and bottom bracket lug clusters, as well as head lugs, would help.

I'd also guess InterClub on the first. Both appear to be very nice riders. I'd guess very quick and responsive.

We love the details, but the bikes are clearly nice keepers.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:32 am Reply with quote
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Here are some more photos .. apologies if i've went a bit overboard Smile












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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:39 am Reply with quote
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Well, I guess I'd retract that "high end" description and say very solid middle-of-the-pack as far as the components go. Still, I'll guess it's a nice rider. A little elbow grease will go a long way in the clean up department.

Bearings may need a clean and re-grease, too.

More shots of the Gitane, too, please.
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Bike Number 2 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:33 am Reply with quote
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The second bike, the red one looks like it could be a mid range late 70s Gitane that's been repainted and rebadged.

It has most of a Shimano 600 "Arabesque" gruppo and the frame looks like a Criterium or similar model Gitane.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:02 am Reply with quote
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Here's some more pics of the Gitane:









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Re: Bike Number 2 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:05 am Reply with quote
Kongoken
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verktyg wrote:
The second bike, the red one looks like it could be a mid range late 70s Gitane that's been repainted and rebadged.

It has most of a Shimano 600 "Arabesque" gruppo and the frame looks like a Criterium or similar model Gitane.



It's funny you mention that as my wife said she thinks her dad had it repainted .. it was a long time ago so she isn't so sure Wink
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Mid 70s Interclub 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:15 pm Reply with quote
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Your blue bike appears to be a mid 70s (75 or 76) Gitane Interclub.

I'm guessing that someone upgraded the rear derailleur from a Huret Challenger to a Shimano? model, the cranks from what ever the bike came with to Stronglight model 99 cranks plus a different seat post (which is shimmed)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:11 pm Reply with quote
bowser
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the red bike looks identical to a gitane i had once the rear dropouts look exactly the same and i havent seen them on any other bike frame since
it also had the "arabesque" 600 groupset . id say it has definetly been re painted so as chas says it could possibly be gitane.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:20 pm Reply with quote
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I've never seen that fork crown on a Gitane (the red bike).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:31 pm Reply with quote
verktyg
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sandranian wrote:
I've never seen that fork crown on a Gitane (the red bike).


Check out the crown on this late 70s Tricolore:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV8Gwhi
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqn3Ikr

It also has the same Super Vitus dropouts with the slightly crimped over stay ends.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:44 pm Reply with quote
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Now I can never say that again. Wink

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