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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:20 pm Reply with quote
shed
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ive just bought this for my son its in bits forks are damaged so need some new ones,can anyone tell me what model it is and what parts would have been on iy originally please

thanks
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Early 70s Interclub 
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:39 am Reply with quote
verktyg
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Greetings and welcome,

How old is your son?

What you have is a 1968-1973 50cm (19") Gitane Interclub.

The Interclub was Gitane's entry level amateur racing model and as such, was equipped with sewups (tubular tires).

What's wrong with the forks? Send picture...

You are going to need a French thread headset. Here's one currently on eBay. It's a Peugeot headset but it will work fine on your bike:

http://tinyurl.com/qh3tqyx

No relation to seller, yada, yada, yada...

Or if you go for a replacement fork it may have British threads so you'll need a British threaded headset.

Problem with a bike this size is that it takes a very short steering tube on the fork and replacements are hard to find.

I'd suggest that you look around for a donor bike (preferably a French make) at some thrift shops like the Salvation Army etc. You can probably find an older bike with all of the parts you need for ~$25.

That would be my first step.

Get back if you don't find something.

BTW, it's hard to tell from your picture whether the tires are sewup or clinchers - that's why I asked how old your son is.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:42 am Reply with quote
shed
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hes 7,he allready has a cheap new road bike,the forks are bent and the tube has split
and thanks what was the original spec,do u know
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:46 am Reply with quote
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also what size forks would they be
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:19 am Reply with quote
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shed wrote:
hes 7,he allready has a cheap new road bike,the forks are bent and the tube has split and thanks what was the original spec,do u know


http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1970_pg4.jpg

http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1970_pg4.jpg

These bikes came with steel cottered cranks. The Stronglight 99 crankset is an upgrade. It probably takes metric threaded pedals, it can be retapped to take British threaded pedals.

At 7 you DEFINITELY want to get him clinchers.

shed wrote:
also what size forks would they be


Measure the length of the steering tube and find a fork that's at least that long.

Look at these 2 pictures for guidelines about headsets:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/28267220@N05/5241737946/in/set-72157625424641013/

1st eBay search for "replacement forks"...

http://tinyurl.com/nwfdsj4

http://tinyurl.com/k7qgce7

These have long threaded sections and can be cut off to fit - they're probably all chrome under the paint.

They could be either French Metric or British thread.


Last edited by verktyg on Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:42 pm; edited 1 time in total

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:03 pm Reply with quote
shed
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thank you
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:53 am Reply with quote
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the tyres are glued on i think
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Tubular Tires _ Sprints 
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:56 am Reply with quote
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shed wrote:
the tyres are glued on i think


Tubular tires, sewups, "sprints" (UK name for glued on tyres)...

Not what you want for a 7 year old unless the bike is going to be used for racing only.

Find some 700c wheels with alloy rims. The rear hub width should be 120mm wide over the lock nuts but you may have better luck finding 126mm wide hubs that were made for 6 speed freewheels.

If you're in Britland, you may have better luck finding 27" wheels with alloy rims.

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1969 TdF
1971 TdF
1974 TdF
1984 TdF x 2 Bikes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:50 am Reply with quote
shed
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the wheels are 24" so would 700 work and yes im in england,thanks for your help,i might just do it up as a non rider and keep it original
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:49 pm Reply with quote
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shed wrote:
the wheels are 24" so would 700 work


I was afraid that the bike had 24" tires (tyres on your side of the pond).

Couldn't tell from the picture.

Those 24" wheels are actually French 600a size and they're a lot smaller than 700c wheels.

There are some 24" British rims that are very close to 600a size.

Check out this page:

http://sheldonbrown.com/rim-sizing.html

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SF Bay Area, CA USA
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1984 Criterium
1969 TdF
1971 TdF
1974 TdF
1984 TdF x 2 Bikes
1970 SC
1971 SC
1972 SC
1984 SC
1984 Team Pro
1985 Professional
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Bent Fork 
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:37 pm Reply with quote
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Shed,

Disregard what I said about the replacement forks on eBay.

Take the fork to a competent bike shop or two and see if they can straighten it.

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Chas.
SF Bay Area, CA USA
==============
1984 Criterium
1969 TdF
1971 TdF
1974 TdF
1984 TdF x 2 Bikes
1970 SC
1971 SC
1972 SC
1984 SC
1984 Team Pro
1985 Professional
1990s Team Replica
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:58 am Reply with quote
shed
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are they the original brake levers,front mech,rear mech

the gear levers i have are suntour but on a raleigh band
the brake levers are weinmann
front mech is a suntour svx
rear mech is simplex which i think is correct
i need to know what it would have had on it please
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:38 am Reply with quote
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shed wrote:
are they the original brake levers,front mech,rear mech
the gear levers i have are suntour but on a raleigh band
the brake levers are weinmann
front mech is a suntour svx
rear mech is simplex which i think is correct
i need to know what it would have had on it please

No, it would have originally had Simplex (or maybe Huret Alvit) derailleurs.

The levers that went with the Simplex entry model Prestige derailleurs were made of Delrin plastic and broke pretty easily.

The Delrin body on the front derailleurs frequently cracked preventing them from being tightened. They were a terrible design and NEVER worked very well anyway.

The brakes were probably either MAFAC or Weinmann. There were smaller levers available from both manufacturers but Gitane probably never bothered to use them on these bikes which were made for younger, smaller riders.

The shift levers and brake levers were probably off of a Raleigh bike. The white brake lever hoods probably say Carlton on the sides.

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Chas.
SF Bay Area, CA USA
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1984 Criterium
1969 TdF
1971 TdF
1974 TdF
1984 TdF x 2 Bikes
1970 SC
1971 SC
1972 SC
1984 SC
1984 Team Pro
1985 Professional
1990s Team Replica
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1970 Catalog 24" Wheel Bike 
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:40 am Reply with quote
verktyg
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Shad,

Here's the listing in the 1970 Gitane Catalog on this website:

http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1970_pg9.jpg

The model is called the Sprint in this catalog.

http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1970_pg9.jpg

Gitane made these "boy's racer" model bikes with both clinchers and tubular tires.

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Chas.
SF Bay Area, CA USA
==============
1984 Criterium
1969 TdF
1971 TdF
1974 TdF
1984 TdF x 2 Bikes
1970 SC
1971 SC
1972 SC
1984 SC
1984 Team Pro
1985 Professional
1990s Team Replica
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:16 am Reply with quote
shed
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is this the type of front mech
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Simplex-6-Speed-SPD-Frotn-MEch-Derailleur-Retro-AD5-/321605531643?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item4ae12ef7fb
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