gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane » Pro Tour de France - any hints on a sale price, buyers?    View previous topic :: View next topic  Pro Tour de France - any hints on a sale price, buyers?   Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:59 pm garrettnixon Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Seattle WA Hello, I acquired a vintage Gitane in great shape for it's age but sadly it's too tall for me (about 24 inches on the rear post). The wheels are new in the pics but I have the originals still. I don't know much about this bike and I don't want to give it away on Craigslist since there's obviously fans out there who could give it a better home. If anyone has any idea what it's worth or better yet, if anyone wants to buy it please email me at garrett@featheredfriends.com If additional pics would be helpful I'd be happy to shoot whatever you need. photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/garrettnixon/Bike?feat=directlink Thanks ~ Garrett Seattle WA Early 70s TdF   Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:00 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Garrett, Welcome to the Forum. You have a 60cm early 70s Gitane Tour de France in VERY nice condition. Gitane measured from the center of the crank to the top of the seat tube back then. It has 2 of the most common changes TdF owners did back then: a Brooks Pro saddle and a SunTour V rear derailleur (those derailleurs sold for $6-$7). Also many riders of larger size frames switched to SunTour bar end shifters. The original wheels would have been sewups with Normandy Luxe Competition hubs. Everything else except the bar tape and cables looks original. Price? $450 to $650 You may have to wait until the right buyer comes along. Good luck _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:27 am LeicaLad Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 142 Location: Northern Virginia From the photos, I'd guess closer to 58cm. Doesn't quite look like the 60. The frame does appear to be in very, very good condition. However, even it the new wheels are on Campy or Phil hubs, that price estimate seems a little optimistic. Regardless, it is a very nice find. The photos are good, but if you'd like to post more close-ups, I know there are many more who will appreciate and might even comment!   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:58 am greyhundguy Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: South-Central VIRGINIA Garrett, Do the original wheels have Normandy hubs? They could have also been Campagnolo "Tipo" (a little more desirable). I think at the price range suggested it might be a long wait for the right buyer. It's had some alterations from original specs but good choices. It also needs a seat tube decal. Overall the bike appears to be in great condition which is a plus. There was a near mint and almost all original TdF in the D.C. area for well over a year that the seller tried over and over to sell from $600. down to $400. and I think he might still have it. Then again, there is a difference in what East Coast buyers are willing to spend vs West Coast buyers. Jay _________________ Dance like nobody is watching. eBay price guestimates   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:59 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Hi Guys, I based my guesstimate on prices I've seen on eBay over the past 3-4 years. Craigslist prices are usually about a third less. During that time span there have been about 6-10 Gitane Tour de France bikes/frames listed on eBay a month and 2-4 Super Corsas. Condition is everything and resprays rarely bring as much as a battle scared all original bike. Even with what appears to be cheap after market wheels, the condition of the frame looks great which is why I gave such high values. The seat tube decals were usual victims of bike stands that gripped the seat tube. One slight twist of the bike and they got wrinkled (did a few myself when we first got a Park stand until we learned to wrap a rag around the tube). The Brooks Pro while a little scuffed and water stained still looks to be in good condition and would bring at least $100 by itself. I have a similar bike for sale at a LBS for $500. "From the photos, I'd guess closer to 58cm. Doesn't quite look like the 60." Gitanes and most other bikes from that era were measured from the center of the crank to the top of the seat tube (C to T). Gitanes came in 50cm, 54cm, 57cm, 60cm, 62cm and 64cm NOMINAL sizes. These translated to 20", 21.5", 22.5", 23.5", 24.5" and 25.5" which were very nominal dimensions. So a 60cm frame would be about a 59cm size Center to Center (C to C). The most popular size frames are 54cm to 60cm. Right now eBay prices are pretty soft but... a nice example of a 38 year old bike can bring those kinds of figures. Old PX-10s are bringing that kind of money and as the reputation of TdFs spreads they too are increasing in value. You can probably expect $300 to $450 on Craigslist. It's getting close to the start of school and students are paying that much for junkers! _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica Re: eBay price guestimates   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:16 am greyhundguy Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: South-Central VIRGINIA verktyg wrote: I based my guesstimate on prices I've seen on eBay over the past 3-4 years. Craigslist prices are usually about a third less. During that time span there have been about 6-10 Gitane Tour de France bikes/frames listed on eBay a month and 2-4 Super Corsas. Chas., Might you mean TdF's and SC's a year here? I can't recall a month with that many Gitanes over the whole model line being offered on eBay. I suspect both of us would be cash poor if that many top end Gitanes were being offered a month. Jay _________________ Dance like nobody is watching. eBay Frequency   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:03 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area greyhundguy wrote: verktyg wrote: I based my guesstimate on prices I've seen on eBay over the past 3-4 years. Craigslist prices are usually about a third less. During that time span there have been about 6-10 Gitane Tour de France bikes/frames listed on eBay a month and 2-4 Super Corsas. Chas., Might you mean TdF's and SC's a year here? I can't recall a month with that many Gitanes over the whole model line being offered on eBay. I suspect both of us would be cash poor if that many top end Gitanes were being offered a month. Jay Jay, I meant a month. From eBay Help section: "When you list your item, you can select the listing duration for 1, 3, 5, 7, or 10 days." Most listings that I've seen for bikes and frames are for 5 or 7 days. During my BAP (Bike Acquisition Phase) from 2006 until late last year, I checked eBay at least one a day. Why so frequently? I found a lot of "things" that I'd been looking for that popped up on BIN (Buy It Now) listings that only lasted a day or so before someone grabbed them. While frequently you'll see a Gran Sport listed as a TdF there's almost always real TdF listed. Right now there's a TdF frame and a bike listed, both 1974 or 75 models. _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica Re: eBay Frequency   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:44 pm greyhundguy Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 678 Location: South-Central VIRGINIA verktyg wrote: greyhundguy wrote: verktyg wrote: I based my guesstimate on prices I've seen on eBay over the past 3-4 years. Craigslist prices are usually about a third less. During that time span there have been about 6-10 Gitane Tour de France bikes/frames listed on eBay a month and 2-4 Super Corsas. Chas., Might you mean TdF's and SC's a year here? I can't recall a month with that many Gitanes over the whole model line being offered on eBay. I suspect both of us would be cash poor if that many top end Gitanes were being offered a month. Jay Jay, I meant a month. Wow! I can't believe I've missed out on 24 to 48 offerings of Super Corsas in the past 12 months. I'll have to watch closer. Jay _________________ Dance like nobody is watching.   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:49 pm LeicaLad Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 142 Location: Northern Virginia Chas, any 23.5 to 24.5 inch bike, either TdF or SC, that you see and don't need yourself, do pass on to me, please. Much to the horror of my wife, I'm apparently entering another bike acquisition phase! Re: eBay Frequency   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:15 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area greyhundguy wrote: Wow! I can't believe I've missed out on 24 to 48 offerings of Super Corsas in the past 12 months. I'll have to watch closer. Jay Well.... maybe my numbers on the SCs were off a little but there have been at least 20 listed (frames/or bikes) over the past year. I click "Add To Watch List" on frames or bikes I'm curious about (mostly Gitanes). One other thing, for whatever reason just clicking on the Sporting Goods section of the Gitane search results sometimes overlooks a Gitane bike or frame. I have to wade through all of the guitar, clothing, record album, lipstick and trany CD listings with hopes of finding a lost sheep (and not Gitane DeMoan). And yes, I'm cash poor now! _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica WAF - Wife Acceptance Factor   Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:48 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area LeicaLad wrote: Chas, any 23.5 to 24.5 inch bike, either TdF or SC, that you see and don't need yourself, do pass on to me, please. Much to the horror of my wife, I'm apparently entering another bike acquisition phase! Check your PM. You wife can hate me too! But honey, bikes are way cheaper than other women! _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:17 am garrettnixon Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Seattle WA Thanks for all the great information, I'll check those wheels again when I get home, they were definitely sew-ups. I can post some close ups as well. Cheers ~ Garrett more photos   Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:20 am garrettnixon Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Seattle WA Hello, I've added some more pics. By the way, I'm asking $400 if anyone is interested. link to photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/garrettnixon/Bike?feat=directlink Still available?   Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:39 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Has anyone grabbed this bike yet? Considering the condition, $400 is a very fair price. If it were my size... I have similar bike on consignment at a LBS for $500. It's not in quite as nice shape as yours. _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica Pro Tour de France - any hints on a sale price, buyers?     gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Gitane USA----------------Vintage GitaneGitane RacingModern GitanePro Racing - Classics/Giro/Tour....Owner Gallery   Powered by phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group Designed for Trushkin.net | Themes Database.