gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane » 1984 TdF painted to look like Team Pro on eBay    View previous topic :: View next topic  1984 TdF painted to look like Team Pro on eBay   Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:35 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area EDITED CORRECTION After re-reading the listing, the seller states that the frame was of 1984 TdF equipped to look like a Team Pro. He doesn't state that it was repainted but it has been. I sent him a message and he confirmed that it was originally TdF red/Orange. It's still going to be a nice riding and handling bike. A rose by any other name... Chas. There's a nice 1984 56cm Gitane Team Pro on eBay listed as a Tour de France. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200946535957 Columbus SL frame with mostly Campy components. It might go for a decent price. No relation to seller!!! I hope that it goes to a good home. It would be a shame to see someone part this out or worse yet, turn it into a fixie! I just finished my own 1984 Team Pro and had for the first ride today. 33 miles and all I can say is WOW! I put it together with mainly French running gear. I'm building a set of sewups to go along with it. Last edited by verktyg on Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:33 pm; edited 2 times in total _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:41 am lofter Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1162 I don't know chas , team pros have chromed chain stays . and they have the inside of the forks by the drops filed squared off . are those simplex drops? cant tell from pics. maybe a respray?   Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:24 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area lofter wrote: I don't know chas , team pros have chromed chain stays . and they have the inside of the forks by the drops filed squared off . are those simplex drops? cant tell from pics. maybe a respray? Lofter, after closer examination and photoshopping the pictures. I think you're right, it is a respray. Why? Original Gitane 1984 decals were on wrap around clear plastic. Up close you can see the seam. The eBay bike looks like it has Cyclomondo decals which are laser cut close to the graphics. These appear to have been clear coated over. Original Gitane decal Cyclomondo decal Also, the Columbus decals are wrong. French Columbus decals Greg of Cyclomondo made up some of these but he used the light blue style instead of the darker blue color. You have to write him at his website: http://cyclomondo.net/index.htm One last thing, the number bracket is a little too far forward. Just because it's a respray and the other minor issues doesn't mean that it's not a Team Pro. If the number tag is original, chances are that it's the real thing, but... Re-reading the listing, the seller says: "Up for auction, 1984 Gitane Tour De France Bicycle, Great restored condition, Built up as a copy of the Renault / Gitane team bikes of the 1980s" So... someone probably added the number tag to a 1984 TdF and repainted it. That doesn't make it all that bad. All 4 of the top 1984 Gitane models used the same frame geometry: Criterium, TdF, Super Corsa and Team Pro. The TdF and Super used the same Super Vitus 983 frames only the color was different, red vs. blue. Super Vitus 983 was about the same wall thickness as Columbus SL tubing so there would be no difference in ride. Last edited by verktyg on Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:50 am; edited 1 time in total _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:26 pm lofter Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1162 chas heres what im talking about when I say inside of fork filed square, ive only seen this on t pros my 83 t pro 84 t pro 87 t pro 88 t pro my 84 xcross fork no squared off filing the blue bike I thought was a 86 t pro in the thread I posted a day or so ago , no squared off filling. someone pointed this out awhile back when we were discussing the differences between a t pro and a bike we thought was a team pro. if it a 84 t pro it should have this filing , if the fork is original and should have simplex drops. if anyone has a red 84 tdf please check the drops and chime in. could the number peg spacing have to do with sizing?   Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:40 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area lofter wrote: chas heres what im talking about when I say inside of fork filed square, ive only seen this on t pros Lofter, I have to admit... you're right. I checked all 5 of my 1984 Gitanes, a Criterium, 2 TdFs, a Super Corsa and my Team Pro. Only the Team Pro is filed that way. My mystery early 90s Team bike is filed that way too. The Criterium came with an extra fork, a chrome one from a 1983 or 84 TdF or SC. It's not filed either. Both the 1985/86 Professionel bare frame that I traded away and the complete Professionel bike I have lack that feature on the inside of the fork ends. The Professionel was available as a bare frame or a complete bike and was supposed to be the top of the line in 85/86. It replaced the Team Pro so they should have been filed square too. lofter wrote: could the number peg spacing have to do with sizing? I don't think so. All of the Pro bikes and frames that I could find pictures of from that era had the number pegs brazed on further back. Since the seller wanted the bike to "LOOK LIKE" a 1984 Team Pro, whoever painted the frame probably added the peg. ...as the seller said, it was a 1984 TdF. I remember when our generous benefactor Stephan got his 1984 Team Pro. There was some discussion back then as to why the inside of the fork blades were filed square. Is it wrong, or just French! Discussion complete! _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica 1984 TdF painted to look like Team Pro on eBay     gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Gitane USA----------------Vintage GitaneGitane RacingModern GitanePro Racing - Classics/Giro/Tour....Owner Gallery   Powered by phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group Designed for Trushkin.net | Themes Database.