gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane » helyett gitane    View previous topic :: View next topic  helyett gitane   Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:52 am rustlover Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 37 Location: germany hello can someone tell me from which year (around) the gitane decals are - when the frame was new coloured? Thanks a lot for your help i think the frame is a helyett special, type rene vietto from 1951 - a lot of work _________________ sorry about my english Early 60s Frame   Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:02 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Welcome to the Forum. Gitane used those Mylar® foil decals from 1968 until 1974. The frame is probably from the the early 60s. _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:26 pm rustlover Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 37 Location: germany thank you verktyg for the information about the decals and the timeline when gitane used them. After doing some nights with research some weeks ago (in the net and tonton) I dont think that the frame is from the 60s, i am sure that it is a 1950s frame - the position of the pumpholder is definetely 50s - backside of the seattube - the inside cable routing was used by helyett in the 50s - the frame number of other helyetts seems that the first two numbers are the production year _________________ sorry about my english   Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:09 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area rustlover wrote: After doing some nights with research some weeks ago (in the net and tonton) I dont think that the frame is from the 60s, i am sure that it is a 1950s frame - the position of the pumpholder is definetely 50s - backside of the seattube - the inside cable routing was used by helyett in the 50s - the frame number of other helyetts seems that the first two numbers are the production year You may be right. Those Simplex dropouts go way back They are similar to these: Simplex Competition Simplex Tour de France Here's a Heylett that was on UK eBay that's similar to your frame. http://tinyurl.com/n6z5ybs _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:48 am rustlover Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 37 Location: germany thank you chas, for your answer and the link to the offered helyet - this can be a interesting bike for a helyett timeline cause this professional model has this typical helyet fork from the 50s but the older lugs - not like the lugs that my one got which looks like nervex pro but where may be a special production for or by helyet. If its right that the first two numbers are the production year than we are near together. Is it right that the simplex dropouts you linked were for quick release and there was a version either for wing nuts? - or were they used for both? weight of the frame is 1910 gramm in size 57 center top - that seem to be a good light and stiff frame - not to light - i have a 1950s Pro frame in size 55 thats weight 1650 gramm - i am not sure if this one is really stiff _________________ sorry about my english Cool !!   Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:11 am smilingroadrunner Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 278 Location: Salina, Ks. Nice Find ! Was this just a frameset ? or the complete / partial bike? What a cool project. I Like Steel !!!! __________________ C.A. Salina, KS.   Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:38 am rustlover Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 37 Location: germany hello smiling, its more a frameset, i get the stem, handlebar (both pivo) and the brakes and levers - both lam super dural it will be a lot of work - the frame needs a braze on for the shiftlever - it is cuted away - and new colour and decals. and then a little part searching in france - i will build it up as original as possible - durax cranks with durax, franco suisse bottom bracket, simplex front and rear derailleur 1950, 51 ... _________________ sorry about my english   Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:18 pm smilingroadrunner Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 278 Location: Salina, Ks. Great, I am sure a lot of members will enjoy images as this moves along. Good Luck ---thanks for the restoration/preservation project ! I Like Steel !!! _______________ C.A. Salina, KS '70 TdeF '71 Interclub '72 Interclub X2 '72 TdeF '73 TdeF '72-'73 S.C. in the wings '86 Performance '87 Victoire helyett gitane     gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Gitane USA----------------Vintage GitaneGitane RacingModern GitanePro Racing - Classics/Giro/Tour....Owner Gallery   Powered by phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group Designed for Trushkin.net | Themes Database.