gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane » shiny Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  shiny   Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:12 pm Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia OK, so sandman was telling us about a poster with Fignon riding a Team Pro that had chrome lugs, or head tube or something..... I guess Hinault had to go one better, huh? Or is that aluminium? (as pron in the English language for all you statesiders: al - you - mini - um) _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel   Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:32 am sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California I have seen pictures of that bike before (1983). It is, I believe, steel, not aluminum. I will get some scans together. The interesting thing about it is how tiny the Gitane logo is. I have a picture which shows the head tube, and the Gitane logo is written out in a total sticker which is no more than 1" long! Teenie...I wonder why? _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com   Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:04 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area I looks chrome plated to me too. The aluminum bikes of that era had oversized lugs. The chainstays and seat stays look flat oval. The wheel sucker behind him is on a steel Peugeot, probably a fairly stock model. What race was that picture taken? It looks like they are on some pave but they are too clean for the PR. The Gitane appears to have very relaxed angles. Chas. details   Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:28 pm Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia Yeah, I think it's chrome plated steel too. Look at the seat stays. Fastback style where they join the seat lug - not usually a gitane trait. What's with the worn out whitw turbo saddle? Sorry the scan isn't so great. The road is definitely tarmac. Not sure what race, the story was a preview for the 83 Tour (July edition). Hinault won 2 classics that year, the Pino Cerami GP and Fleche Wallonne. Perhaps it's one of those? The steel peugeots of 83 were painted white as is shown on the next page of the magazine - you'll have to take my word for it. That is the early carbon job that the big fella is riding. (again, there are other pics that show it better). Who is that wheelsucker, anyway? Some unknown american I'll bet. _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel   Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:52 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area The small picture has some pixelation that makes it look like pave but the blowup is definitely Macadam.   Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:59 pm Dan Druff Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Australia I think the wheel sucker is Phil Anderson on a Peugeot. You maybe able to cross reference to find the race. Cheers. Mike Smith Sydney, Australia.   Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:39 am sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California Hinault used the same "chromed" Gitane bike in the 1983 Fleche-Wallone. The weather was bad, so he also used the rubberized Renault elf jersey which looks great in the pics. _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com   Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:22 pm STW Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Looks like Phil's bike might have the sliver Mavic group like Hinault's dark grey version. Has the right Simplex shifters at least. Would Peugeot have been putting Mavic on race bikes in 83? Could also be a S. Record group with the common substitution of Simplex shifters, but it seems less likely to be Campag since it's on a Peugeot (?). Mitch Harris Little Rock Canyon, Utah   Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:30 pm verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area The Peugeot could have have a Spidel grupo - Stronglight, Simplex, Mafac, Mavic and so on. They were pushing French components during that era. Here's a link to Peugeot PX-10 history. Down at the bottom are the sketchy details from the 1980s: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/bicycles/Peugeot/PX10_history.htm Chas.   Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:35 am nicolas Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 543 Location: Paris, France sandranian wrote: Hinault used the same "chromed" Gitane bike in the 1983 Fleche-Wallone. The weather was bad, so he also used the rubberized Renault elf jersey which looks great in the pics. Yeah, that's definitely the same bike. Given that Hinault wears a helmet, I'd say it's taken from a belgian race (were you had to wear a helmet)...maybe liege bastogne liege but I'm not sure he finished this one ? _________________ "Ooooh Putain !!! C'est vous ?" -Greg LeMond www.greglemondfan.com   Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:10 pm njbiker Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 8 Hummm, Might be aluminum, or aluminium, or steel, or maybe steal, perhaps crome plated aluminum, One thing for sure he was going like a bat out of heck shiny gitanes   Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:38 am Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia ack! Here's another one! Check out No. 68's bike. Chrome or alu? The seat tube looks suspiciously black........... Maybe they experimented with the competition's new fnagled carbon bikes? _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel   Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:04 am STW Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Also looks like the down tube is possibly black (carbon) if you look at the edge of the bb shell/dt junction, just under the front QR in that photo. The fork hides most of the dt but that black edge at the bb is pretty clear. The top tube could also be black (carbon) with the reflection on the tt masking that to some degree. I do remember that, it seemed, almost as soon as bonded lug aluminium bikes hit the market there were bonded lug aluminium bikes with black carbon in the three main tubes. Is that Stephen Roche for Redout behind #68 and to the left? Also a pleasure to be reminded of Redout riding Motobecane. --Mitch carbon?   Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:09 pm Paul Wiseman Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 584 Location: Brisbane, Australia Maybe one of the early manufacturers was happy to provide frames to the big brands for a while in the early to mid 80's. Like TVT in the late 80's. They did bikes for Look, Pinarello, Villenger & LeMond to name just a few. Yep, that's a young Roche. Also look for young Mottet, young Rooks, young Caritoux, and Winnen and........ _________________ Wisey Brisbane, Australia 1974 Paris - Nice 1985 Defi 1985 Victoire 1985 Victoire (yes, another one!) 1985 Professionnel   Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:00 pm sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California where is rooks? I see the others.... _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com shiny     gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours   Page 1 of 2   Goto page 1, 2  Next All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Gitane USA----------------Vintage GitaneGitane RacingModern GitanePro Racing - Classics/Giro/Tour....Owner Gallery   Powered by phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group Designed for Trushkin.net | Themes Database.